*bioptic right? That’s p cool
Yeah, sorry I’m on the phone.
Hmm that is very interesting. I know you are limited in what you can elucidate upon, but I did have a couple questions. (Some related to what you previously said, others not)
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The idea of caching seems to rely on one using Chrome (unless it used cookies), is that true?
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Does google use a proprietary version of K8s for much of their internal workings (don’t worry they already say they use K8s, just wondering if they modify it, and why. Do understand if you can’t talk about this one.)
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Do you ever worry about your privacy and the data that many large companies are collecting? Personally, I am very privacy conscious (use firefox, duck duck go, FOSS, and GNU+Linux w/o SystemD). But I am just wondering your thoughts coming from someone who has had first hand experience with these companies.
Thank you for your time.
Ha! Good one.
Welcome to VF Logan, thanks for the great questions.
First let me just say that my views don’t completely accurately represent Google’s, nor am I authorized to speak on their behalf. The following is my personal opinion:
Again my statements above are guesses, I am not on the Chrome team nor have I touched that project. I would assume Google has stats on all their users browsers of choice and I would assume that all major browsers do some amount of caching. Chrome may be doing extra prediction, idk. In general assets like images are expected to mostly be cached on frequently visited sites, so Google would choose to not send that as part of the initial payload and instead rely on more conventional methods (IE an image tag that links to a CDN asset).
I’m struggling with this one. We mostly use something else, it’s not a secret but it’s Google specific and works with our infrastructure better. Wish I could say more, because it’s a super interesting topic.
User data is extremely well protected at Google. At [action camera company] I handled user data occasionally, or at least I certainly had access to it. Scary stuff too, AWS links to user photos, GPS cords, timestamps, etc. I never, not even once decided to do anything with that but that was up to me. At Google I have not once had any means to access user data, it is really seriously well protected. There probably are people at the company who can access this stuff as part of their job, I have no doubt, esp. when it comes to moderation of content and abiding by law enforcement requests, but you don’t generally speaking have to worry about a bored engineer snooping though your life.
What you do have to worry about is spillage in the algorithms. My girlfriend gets served Google ads for stuff I search for, because she’s on my network and shares my external IP address, that’s a serious problem and we need to work on that. Likewise I know the YouTube algorithm can be spun up to end up serving some pretty devastating content as was recently demonstrated with a subject matter I shouldn’t talk about here, but nonetheless it warranted a response from the company.
User privacy is grilled into us at orientation, as is internationalization and accessibility. We care about the users. We want Google to be a place people trust with their data, as such we take privacy seriously. Having said that, does Google collect a lot of data? Yeah we certainly do. Should you be concerned, eh probably a little. Would I run around with Kali linux and use Tor to surf the web, no that’s probably silly.
blink twice if you were told to say that.
lol, no it’s true. We have classes on all this and more.
dont worry. i believe you mr google .
Me earlier when coding my bot be like:
Wow, it’s cool to see someone work at a big company like Google from vex! @Cody is it harder working there than it was winning at vex?
I was only ever a worlds semi-finalist. Wouldn’t call that winning VEX but it’s very close. I did win the first Design A Game Animation online challenge and went on to do two official VRC animations, Clean Sweep and Round Up.
Getting to Google is hard. Google is eh… it’s work, much more boring than college but a larger time commitment. It’s fun BSing with co-workers and/or attending talks on bleeding edge stuff, but the work part is just coding. A lot of debugging big systems, making small changes, breaking everything, fixing everything, writing tests to make sure that others don’t break everything the way you just did., stuff like that.
VEX is a lot more fun. In general though, the more complex and boring something is, the more money is in it.
So a question to the community, do you guys care about hearing about money? Does that offend people or is it really interesting? I’m not ashamed to speak in terms of dollars, but maybe on a forum about kids toys maybe that’s not the most favored topic to discuss? I’m just curious, some ppl here seem to hate the fact that I am discussing my career here so cavalierly, others seem to be super into it.
I mean you haven’t made many friends on the discord server but I don’t mind hearing about your career adventures.
Yeah I figured a lot of these coordinated attacks of 2-3 people were coming from there. I don’t really care TBH, I’ve seen enough of these loser kids that are frankly only after some kind of social credit so they can act smug around their 2-4 friends, usually by “owning” someone or by dropping a meme at the right time. When you fight them intellectually you have the same problem you have confronting a religion, the SJW people or even a group of bros - when you land a solid “punch” on them, they act like it didn’t land. They often dish out punches that don’t actually land, or that one is trying to debate and they act like their stuff always sticks. When you try to debate a side that has already decided it’s correct and everyone else is wrong, a side that isn’t listening to and evaluating external stimuli, there really is no winning.
So those losers can just stay losers and not get good solid career advice. That’s totally fine by me. Heck it’s even fine if they think they’ve “won” some of these spats. I’ve won the game of life finally, and that’s what matters.
But I really do want to know, are teenagers even thinking about careers and money, or is it just friends and dating? My poll on video topics suggest that career and life trajectories are of interest within this community. Very strongly in fact.
A lot of the discord people aren’t losers.
Some are really nice and helpful.
Some think that you just want to kind of “flex” on them and other reason I don’t really care about
Well they’re wrong, and that tells us something. I have nothing to prove and did not come here to make friends or join a social hierarchy. “Flexing” would entail that I wanted to join the group and join as a higher ranking member, which I am BTW - I have been on this forum longer than almost anyone other than James. But no I have no interest in being buddies with the gen Z collective robotics clique.
I am just an odd passerby that has some stories to share.
Maybe having someone new and unfamiliar but who pulls rank is uncomfortable to the current social power structure? Maybe they’re threatened by my presence. Funny stuff. They should get over it so that we can have productive conversations about important things, more important than toys.
being on here for a long time does not make you a better member. thats just arrogant.
Congrats about google though
But you also have to understand that some might have read your thread wrong
Yes, except for every once in a while. You know of which I speak.
I think some people are taking Cody’s bluntness as a form of offense or disrespect when really he is doing it for the sake of being practical. I feel like there are a lot of things about the real world that you don’t know as a middle or high schooler that you more than likely won’t learn until you enter your 20s and are deeper into college, and its hard to understand what Cody is saying unless you have the necessary experience of how the world works.
For example, I believe someone brought up Codys advice of attending a top name school as insulting. I highly doubt he said this to make anyone feel bad, he just said it because once you get to college you realize its the truth. If I were still in high school I would have also found it insulting but once you get to college you realize just how competitive the STEM world is. Engineering is slowly dying when it comes to high income positions, CS is truly taking over. The starting income for an engineer is much lower than most people would think these days, and the only way to start with a desirable income is to start at the top, which those big name schools like MIT and CMU will get you to much easier. You can argue that STEM does have a lot of jobs, but it also has a whole lot of applicants, mainly because it is the only major that doesnt require you to have a secondary education such as law school, medical school, MBA, etc. This makes it much more desirable as college is very unnafordable these days and the less time you have in school the less stressful life will be.
The way I see it, this man has come back from after 10 years of not competing and is attempting to show everyone on the forums that vex does contribute towards an ambitious goal, which for Cody was getting a CS job at google.
its a good thing I’m not just in it for the income then