passion should always be priority over income, so ur doing it right 
I just wanted to post another view for some perspective. I know If I was coming to a medium like this in early high school, a post like this would really impact what Iām thinking. Engineering takes many forms (especially in varying majors at universities). I usually dont comment on posts relating to x school is better than x, since I go to a school (ASU) that many attribute to just being a party school, but in reality you make your experience at any place you go. I know of companies that value more prestigious university graduates, but most do not.
I know I didnt get the internship I have currently based on any grades or where I go, since I never even gave my GPA to them in the first place, and there are interns from all around the country. Please just make your decisions about career/college/whatever else on what YOU are passionate about. If that means going to an in state school so you can afford it, go for it, or go to one of the big names.
I couldnt agree more
Can confirm. Went to ASU, got a bachelors. Got a job that certainly isnāt paying what Google would pay, but itās still very decent money. Most people I know from work also went to ASU/other state schools. Nice side benefit of not working at a super competitive Bay Area company is not living in the Bay Area, which means housing prices are sane(ish). I can afford to live by myself in a house that I couldnāt afford with three times my salary in California.
Not to take anything away from working at Google, thatās super impressive, and Iām sure the stuff Codyās working on is way way cooler than what I do. But itās by no means the end of the world if you donāt get into CMU or MIT.
Hey @DRow is there any particular reason this thread hasnāt been locked? I donāt see any productive discussion coming out of continuing it
(At the very least it seems to have diverged quite a bit from the stated topic)
The thread is doing fine, nice try. We started off talking about school and careers, and thatās what we are still discussing.
Iāll leave this open for other future life, career, school or Google related questions. Weāve had quite a few good ones so far. I would ask that we suspend the tomato throwing so that the play can proceed. If there are no more questions, then this will get pushed down by other threads and forgotten.
Can you at least change the topic from VEX V5 General Discussion to something more appropriate?
Worlds semi finalist is still pretty epic! Idk what those other challenges were but I bet they werenāt easy to win either! Thanks for giving a big answer my questions! Google > Bing
Yeah sorry about that, this is my mistake. @jpearman can I bother you to fix this? I missed when creating the thread.
I think the title is fine.
I tell my freshmen HS roboteers that the job they will have when they come out of college / university does not yet exist or wonāt be the way it is today.
Engineering has hugely changed
Information technology hugely changed
Medicine? Still treating people but nothing like 10 years ago and will morph again in 8 more years.
Everything is changing, reach out and embrace the change. For most people the thing they fear the most is change. Look at today, people want to go back. Thatās not how time works, you always need to be moving forward, ready for the change.
Iāve known Cody a long time. Heās worked his umm, Fingers! off getting to where he is today. and heās not done yet. He has a characteristic that I admire in people. Heās relentless. And you should become relentless too.
Best advice I can give is āBe age 3 and 4 againā. If you look at your average 3 and 4 year old, they are like little sponges. They soak everything up. They look at the world and extract all of they can from it. They do analysis, they model, they predict, they try thesis over and over. Be that. Be open. Explore. Always look at the world in different ways.
In college you jhave to do these things
- Nail the basics down hard. Math rules, get the āhow to mathā part down and you are good. There are a ton of tools out there, but if you donāt understand what they are doing, they wonāt help you.
- Learn how to socialize and communicate. The people you meet are your āpeer groupā they are people you will want to keep in touch with and follow them. Going to Harvard (as an example) isnāt about they teach math better at Harvard. There is a metric ton of kids that go there and they are on trajectories to become āMasters of the Universeā ā¢. Glom onto them, they will be useful to you in the future.
- Learn how to learn. So you are not 3 or 4, you need to relearn how to research, figure things out, figure out when you were wrong and figure out how to fix it. I leaned from books and watching people, today there are videos, and Iām hoping in the next 5 years there are brain implants. Be smart, but for all of us, common sense is always a go to tool.
- Reach out, lift up. You are no longer the smartest person in the room. Reach out when you are in trouble. And when you see someone else struggling then lift them up. People remember these times. Your life is going to go in cycles, always lift others, you will often need a lift.
(Or as my British Boss from Cambridge said āMath, Socializing, Debate, Mannersā )
Good thread Cody and the others!
This is awesome news, Cody! I was a big fan of your YouTube channel back in the day! Glad you managed to get that position - never let the haters get to you B)
Oh no, please, donāt delete this topic yet. I still havenāt read all the replies. Some make me cringe, but I hope to overcome that and read them all, because I feel that this material will help with my future studies.
I guess, the real purpose of the topic was for Cody to come back to the place where he is well known for his tutorials and stuff and feel connected, because everyone is thrown off their routine and covid uncertainty sucks.
I mean, it feels like mentions of ācat deductableā, āloser kidsā, and āgroups of brosā are off-topic, and Google cache and infrastructure stuff goes right over my headā¦ But, hey, you cannot know if something is lit or not without reading it first.
@Cody, I am fascinated by the fields of robotics and clinical psychology. Do you think, if I pursue my dreams, I have a chance to find an application at Google?
i feel like people are misunderstanding what i meant about the stated topic, which was just about how the topic was set to VEX V5 General Discussion instead of e.g. Chit-Chat / Rumor Mill so that people can properly filter discussions.
in any case, that particular problem has now been solved
Yes I screwed up the category. I asked mods to fix it. My bad.
See this is a good question. Google mostly hires engineers. If you are a good engineer in a hardware or software discipline, you have a solid chance. Google likes to hire people who add to their collective culture and I believe thatās why the hiring committee likes people who are engineers - but also bring something else to the table. It makes you more interesting.
Getting an MS and going to the best schools possible also helps.
Is Google your dream? Are you willing to commit a large chunk of time getting there (6-10 years)? If the answer is yes and you calibrate your studies accordingly you can get there. But it does help enormously to be doing the thing they predominately hire for - software or hardware engineering.
If you really love clinical psychology, which is an awesome field I am also interested in, you might want to pursue that either instead or in addition to.
Aside: I have a kitten trying to eat the Thunderbolt cable connecting my laptop to my IOā¦
I was wondering what the youtube channel was called so I can watch some of the videos.
Edit: Nvm I didnāt see it at first while skimming but I found it
I assume this one
The king of deleting post so nobody knows what they say. You do it so much and I always wonder what your saying half the time.
Iām not sure about you, but I never want to work for a company merely for the brand. I think before anyone considers a company, like Google or Microsoft, they should join for the job position rather than the business itself.
For me/what I want to do:
Robotics is something that I find fun and exciting, but nothing beats the thrill of coding. I love coding, and I find the greatest pleasure in coding from figuring out algorithms and equations by myself with little to no assistance from resources. I like coding because every line gives me satisfaction, and nothing is more satisfying than taking a step back and see 15 thousand lines of code written entirely by yourself (I have written 15k lines of code for a game I made). The feeling of āI gave an object a soul, so it can move and operate on its ownā is something that is so enjoyable, and gives me the feeling of having ultimate power.
I want to start my own Engineering/Robotics company one day, and as I grow I hope to eventually get there one step at a time.
Nice quote. Inspired my teammates.
Lets be nice to each other.