This years rules have more grey area than a fresh box of anti-static tiles

VEX V5 Robotics Competition VRC > Tipping Point (21/22)
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hoarding during auton
in theory possible but pretty impractical imo
HS autons just dont have quite enough time to go possess multiple goals and then stop possessing and switch to a hoarding. But in a match that could be very easy to do.

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My auton (MS) grabs two neutral goals, then pushes one into the corner, but this is technically noot hoarding, right?

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not hoarding
hoarding is 2 or more
in that scenario you have possessed 2 and one in a corner
if it goes to 2 in corner then hoard

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It is hoarding, you just canā€™t hoard more than one goal

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yes, 2 OR more, I thought only having 1 goal in the corner, while possessing two is ok, which it should be.

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I apologize if Iā€™m simply repeating whatā€™s already being said, but there is no possession limit. You can hoard 1 goal (i.e. stuffing it against the wall without any sort of clamping mechanism on it) and possess (be clamped onto or holding in a basket, lift, or something else of the sort) as many as you want. It is only a violation if you have more than 1 mobile goal against a wall or in a corner without being attached to it.

So you could be possessing literally all the mobile goals and not be in a violation as long as only one or less is being hoarded.

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for example shopping cart robot

28

Not limited to corner(s). And >1 is okā€¦ until you defend/block it. Until that point itā€™s a pile of goals.

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I think this may be answered but, the way my refs have ruled it and the way I interpret the rules are you can theoretically have all 7 goals if you are possessing them, that is controlling its motion. However you may not be blocked more than one goal that you are not possessing. So yes you can possess two and block and it is not hoarding until you become blocking two goals, while still possessing two.

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This is still hoarding, hoarding is blocking access to a goal without possessing it, you just canā€™t hoard more than one goal without it being a rule violation.

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Ok, I guess the message here is people are worried about hoarding violations. So sorry if I was unclear, I mean that you can do what I said and not get called for a violation. However doing the second sentence of your recent reply is. :slight_smile: