I can also vouch for this, it’s worked really well for our team this season, just we’ve had one drive and operate the front half of the robot while the other operates the back half. Communication is beyond key though.
I was looking at that for my team, seems smart.
I think two person driving can have a lot of benefits for a team, especially if there are a lot of things that need controlling, but it also has the downsides of needing two people to be there to effectively practice driving, and making coordination much more important.
I can vouch for this. I have had many quadcopters ranging from cine drones to racing drones. The extreme precision needed to smoothly fly a drone helps train your brain that every movement has a consequence and trains your fingers to make quick smooth calculated movements. It also teaches reflexes to quickly make course changes or grab a mogo as soon as you touch it.
As for 2 drivers, personally I think one person controling the lift, claw, and drivetrain is important simply because you can perform grabs and drops quicker and more accurately. While a second driver may have a delayed response to picking up a mogo or drop a mogo before the drivetrain operator has got the robot into the correct spot. Something a second driver would be useful for though would be a secondary scoring system like a conveyor belt/ring system. If it gets jammed it can be reversed, or if the back lift needs to go slightly higher or lower for the ring system to be effective then the second driver can make said adjustments while the main driver focuses on larger tasks. We will be trying this method for state.
But most importantly like most people have stated practice will make you a better overall driver. Choose one control scheme (I prefer arcade because I like a joystick for my main lift to control it’s speed) and practice the heck out of it.
Reason I say learn to drive slow… it breaks the mental habit of going full stick all the time. Teaches precise stick control… which quickly leads to across the board improvement.
Tipping Point is an interesting game because the robots are literally going against each other, smashing into other bots at times. With the mobile goals, and the rings, there’s so much strategy involved that it almost doesn’t matter how good of a driver you are - as long as you know what you’re doing and can work with the other team.
I’m not my team’s driver, but this is what I’ve seen work best:
- Constantly scrolling through YouTube [and Forums], taking inspiration from other people’s routes.
- Additionally, from these resources, look into strategy. Maybe make a list of sticky situations (such as the other team winning possession in match auton) and what to do if that happens.
- For literal practice, maybe look into purchasing a small RC car to use when you’re not able to use the game field.
a scuff controller doesn’t give you any more buttons it just lets you press other buttons while driving so you can be more fluent
You didn’t watch the youtube video I saw 2 days ago then. There was a driver that could drive better in reverse than most can drive forward. He OWNED the other team due to this. They tried a turtle and he managed to take all 7 goals.
When I say more buttons, I mean more buttons that are easily accessible and subsequently easier to use. Obviously, if you want more buttons in general, you have to use 2 controllers.
i unfortunately have no friends so i have to resort to a scuff controller
thx for clarification but wouldn’t scuff make it more accessible???
For inspiration…
bruh their not bad but the other team just bozos its all about the turtle this year
It’s a 10 min video… and your post is 3 min after I put it up. Did you even watch the whole thing?
yep already watched the video b4 your post
I’m sorry but there is no good substitute for in person practice. As a general rule get in as much in person practice as you can and have the same driver for as long as possible. After 4 years of driving, no matter the robot, the controls feel intuitive. Another important factor in good driving is good drive code. Have as many functions as you can automated. On my robot we have the ring intake roll whenever the toggle for holding the back mobile goal is active. Small things like that help ALOT.
Honestly you have to practice a lot at highspeeds
I’m telling you… practice going slow… the speed will develop.
By practicing at high speed… you are keeping sticks pushed all the way to the limits… that’s NOT teaching/practicing stick control/modulation.
Best drivers I’ve ever seen… learned to drive slow… and are also heli fliers.
If you can, definitely watch back videos of driving in past competitions. It’s proved invaluable for helping me see what was going wrong with my driving and strategy. Driving skill comes with practice, but having a stable and easy to drive robot is also a big help.
how in the world do you suppose you can drive with two people? there is only one controller cord for each team in a match so you cant just connect two controllers and also i cant see how you can connect two controllers to one robot anyway. if yall can explain, that would be helpful because im so confused right now. XD
I believe you can have a cable between your two controllers (cables used for motors and v5 sensors to the brain, I can’t remember what they’re called), and just have a second controller object declared in your code. I’m not too sure as there aren’t any teams in my region that do this that I know of.