It really clears up a lot of confusion. What does everyone else think and are there any new weird holes in the rules?

Oof. To err is human. To err so badly that you create 100+ page forum threads is, I guess, to be the GDC chairman. Before reading any further, please read the response to the following Q&A: https://www.robotevents.com/VRC/2021-2022/QA/970 And the revised response to the one that kicked this who…

[image] Xenon27: Goal lockdown is inevitable, so I think making it as easy for the refs as possible in this case is preferable. LOL - Imagine if they came up with essentially a “shot clock” where you could only Possess goals for 5 seconds…

[image] Xenon27: Now hoarding should rarely be a fuzzy distinction, I like the changes here. Disagree. Red puts two goals in their home zone, say 8 feet apart. Now they can’t hit the blue robot in the neutral zone or they are blocking access to them. Literally, as the field is intially setup…

Not an SG7 violation: [image] Kind of broken.

Why do you think this is not a violation? I think it is…

[image] 9MotorGang: Not an SG7 violation: First, the GDC has always maintained that Hoarding should be “rare”. Second, it is difficult to tell from a still photo, but I would be surprised if the 2 yellow goals towards the corner are directly “Possessed” (e.g. would they move when the robot m…

[image] mlonsinger: Why do you think this is not a violation? I think it is… Only one goal is being hoarded, The other 5 are possessed. [image] Mentor_355U: Second, it is difficult to tell from a still photo, but I would be surprised if the 2 yellow goals towards the corner are directly …

Ah, okay! Possession of the two neutral mogos in the corner wasn’t clear. If they are indeed possessed, you’re correct and this isn’t a hoarding violation. Wow!

[image] 9MotorGang: The yellow goals are in fact possesses. When the robot drives away from the corner, the yellow goals go with it. Assuming that true, when the opposing alliance makes an attempt for these goals, as a ref, I’d probably need you to demonstrate that Possession is being maintai…

G3: Use common sense. When reading and applying the various rules in this document, please remember that common sense always applies in the VEX Robotics Competition. From the red box of SG7: In general, unless a Robot or Alliance is intentionally and blatantly utilizing a Hoarding strategy, viola…

Pull this off in a match. I’d absolutely love to see it. It would be awesome. Pushing goals into corner = Easy Designing robot to hold 5+ goals = Hard Doing hard things should be rewarded. If that’s broken, I don’t want to be fixed.

What do we think of the game manual update today?

VEX V5 Robotics Competition VRC > Tipping Point (21/22)

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Only one goal is being hoarded, The other 5 are possessed.

The yellow goals are in fact possesses. When the robot drives away from the corner, the yellow goals go with it.

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