Answered: SG10/G13 interpretation

[reflxshn]

I apologize for reposting this question, however, at an event this weekend I was told by the head referee that all of the following post had “incorrect links” and that there is a newer ruling (that could not be provided/I cannot find).

Basically team A has mobile goal with cones stacked and is attempting get to their zone to score them and is being blocked by a robot on the opposing alliance. While attempting to get around them, the blocking robot is pushed into the team A’s 10 point zone where it malfunctions and cannot exit.

All of the following posts were disregarded as invalid because they referenced an old Karthik link
https://vexforum.com/t/answered-legal-and-illegal-blocking-strategies/43967/1
https://vexforum.com/t/answered-5-point-zone-defensive-actions/44335/1
https://vexforum.com/t/answered-legal-and-illegal-blocking-strategies/43967/1

All of these reference the following Karthik post
https://vexforum.com/t/answered-blocking-opponents-from-entering-zones/41463/1
I was told that all of these links were in error and that there was “private” REC partner communication that this interpretation was no longer accurate. The defensive/blocking team no longer has any liability if they are pushed into the 10 point zone by a team trying to score. Team A should spend extra time to drive around the blocking team to avoid this.
Can you please clarify?
• Are the above links in to Karthik’s post either in error or no longer valid?
• Does a team trying to score have to avoid pushing a blocking robot if it might cause them to enter the 10 point zone?

Thank you-

Fyi…I’ve been to 4 events this season and each one has had a different interpretation of the SG10 ruling.

[VEX_GDC]

Are the above links in to Karthik’s post either in error or no longer valid?

Unless otherwise specified by an post edit or a thread reply, all official responses posted this season should be considered valid, whether they were posted by this account or by Karthik. When issuing a correction, we will usually change the “Answered by” highlight to the new corrected version.

Does a team trying to score have to avoid pushing a blocking robot if it might cause them to enter the 10 point zone?

This is a very context-sensitive question. The posts that you linked are a good start. The Q&A Summary document also includes some additional posts that cover this issue, especially the following one:

https://vexforum.com/t/answered-definition-of-the-10-point-zone/43614/1

Scenario: A Red Robot is defending the Blue Scoring Zones, and is pushed into the 10 Point Zone by a Blue Robot. If the Blue Robot is attempting to score (i.e. moving to score a Mobile Goal or stack Cones), then referees should err on the side of the offensive robot and the Red Robot would be in violation of <SG10>. However, if Blue was solely pushing the Red Robot in the interest of drawing a penalty (i.e. not even holding a Mobile Goal or Cones), then <G13> would apply.

In general, a robot playing defense around an opponent’s scoring zones should exercise extreme caution.