So over the weekend, my team competed at the vex tipping point competition in Pickerington, Ohio. We had gone undefeated during the day and in our last match this happened to our team that led to us being DQ’ed [2021 Picktown Throw Down VEX Qualifier] timestamp: 5:21:46-5:22:04 We are …

Is it legal? -Yes since G13 Supersedes G14 Should it be legal might change depending on who you ask. It was such a blatant attack to get you DQ’d I think that it absurd that you could get penalized for getting pushed across the whole field and slammed into the platform.

This ruling is consistent with an Elimination match at the WPI Signature Event where a robot in a tug-of-war over a goal was pulled into transitive contact with a Platform at the end of the Match. I believe this is consistent with: [image] I think this is a good scenario to pose to the Official …

[image] Joey_24K: Why didn’t you move your robot away from the platform after they stopped pushing you? the refs could have interpreted you not moving away as intentionally continuing to contact the platform. At the time I didn’t want to give them another elevated robot. But, our base is pret…

[image] 45133C: At the time I didn’t want to give them another elevated robot. But, our base is pretty weak and I don’t know if I would have been able to drive away within the time. In fairness to Red and the ref (who, I know is a very good ref), it did seem like they gave you roughly the las…

[image] Mentor_355U: [image] now, why does note 2 here claim that <sg3> states that contacting your opponent’s platform at the end of the match is a blanket disqualification when that isn’t stated anywhere in <sg3>? Platforms are “safe” during the endgame. During the last thirty (30) seco…

[image] Xenon27: Seems to me like such an important thing should be in , rather than hiding in a sub-note under the definition of balanced. Seems the story of the rules this year. Perversely, when the Red Robot pushes the Blue Robot into the Red Platform, the Red Robot (transitively) now rec…

[image] Mentor_355U: Perversely, when the Red Robot pushes the Blue Robot into the Red Platform, the Red Robot (transitively) now receives the “benefit of the doubt” under SG3b: wow, it hadn’t occurred to me that a robot pushing it’s alliance into their own platform would still be protected b…

[image] Is <SG3> still too harsh? VRC > Tipping Point (21/22) <SG3> Platforms are “safe” during the endgame. During the last thirty (30) seconds, Robots may not contact the opposing Alliance’s Platform. a. For the purposes of this rule, contact is considered “transitive…

These interpretations effectively nullify G14 in probably 90% of cases where it would have mattered. In my opinion, there should be a rule change which gives G14 a bit more precedence over G13 and SG3.

[image] Xenon27: provided that no other rules are being violated Perhaps this clause allows for G14 exceptions, though it may not be clear (given both this match and the WPI match, both made by very good and very experienced referees)

Should this be legal?

VEX V5 Robotics Competition V5 Tipping Point (21/22)

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