Answered: Pushed into opponents 10 point Bar

[Jacob_8757]

According to the rule SG10 which says
** Robots may not contact the opposing Alliance’s 10 Point Zone or 20 Point Zone**
and then the rule G13 which says
** * Intentional strategies causing an opponent to violate a rule are not permitted, and will not result in an infraction on the opposing alliance.***
would a team that is between an opposing robot and the opposing teams 10 point bar and is subsequently pushed into the bar be disqualified. Would the team that pushes them be intentionally be forcing them to break a rule and would the team that is pushed be counted as forcing the pushing robot to break a rule (G13) due to them blocking as the team does not have to push them. Does the intent to score a goal count as a factor. Also will a robot that is accidentally entangled to an opposing robot be penalized for touching the opposing 10 point bar if they are pulled into it by the opposing robot. Finally will being pushed into scoring objects that are touching the ten point zone count due to the rule SG15

• ** Scoring Objects cannot be used to accomplish actions that would be otherwise illegal if they were attempted by Robot mechanisms.** *
  I have provided pictures of the first scenario below with red and blue robots as squares with arrows showing the direction they are trying to move.
  Thank You For Your Time in answering these questions.
  -Jacob
  
  
  
  
  

[VEX_GDC]

First, the definition of 10 Point Zone is as follows, with a portion bolded for emphasis:

10 Point Zone – One of two (2) areas of foam field tiles, one (1) for each alliance, in which Robots can Score Mobile Goals. The 10 Point Zone is defined by the inner edges of the playing field walls, the Starting Bar, and the large ~2.375” (60.325 mm) pipe that separates the 10 Point Zone and the 20 Point Zone.

Note 1: The Starting Bar is not considered to be a part of the 10 Point Zone

Note 2: The large pipe is considered to be part of the 10 Point Zone

The scenario that you are describing, where a defender contacts an opposing alliance’s Starting Bar, is completely legal, regardless if they were pushed into it or not.

For information regarding what to do when a robot is pushed into the 10 Point Zone, please see the following posts and the Q&A Summary:

Answered: Blocking Opponents from Entering Zones

Answered: Definition of the 10 Point Zone

Also will a robot that is accidentally entangled to an opposing robot be penalized for touching the opposing 10 point bar if they are pulled into it by the opposing robot.

To be clear, because contacting an opponent’s Starting Bar is legal, we’re going to assume that you are referring to a blue robot (using your images) being pulled into the red 10 Point Zone. This situation would be extremely dependent upon the context of the match. However, referees would be advised to utilize <G12> if necessary, especially the portion quoted and bolded below:

<G12> Strategies aimed solely at the destruction, damage, tipping over, or Entanglement of Robots are not part of the ethos of the VEX Robotics Competition and are not allowed. However, VEX Robotics Competition In the Zone is an interactive game. Some incidental tipping, Entanglement, and damage may occur as a part of normal game play. If the tipping, Entanglement, or damage is ruled to be intentional or egregious, the offending Team may be disqualified from that Match. Repeated offenses could result in a Team being Disqualified from the remainder of the competition.

VEX Robotics Competition In the Zone is intended to be an offensive game. Teams that partake in solely defensive strategies will undergo extra scrutiny in regard to <G12>. In the case where referees are forced to make a judgment call on interaction between a defensive and offensive Robot, the referees will err on the side of the offensive Robot.

So, the defender (blue) would likely be in violation, via <SG10> and <G12>. In general, teams should exercise caution when attempting a defensive strategy that could put them in a position which violates <SG10>.

Finally will being pushed into scoring objects that are touching the ten point zone count due to the rule SG15

It is difficult to provide a blanket ruling based off of a hypothetical scenario, but likely, yes. <G2> (“common sense always applies in the VEX Robotics Competition”) should be used to interpret these scenarios. For example, a defender who is planted on a Scoring Object in the 10 Point Zone would be considered in violation of <SG10> via <SG15>. However, a robot who incidentally contacts a row of Cones that happen to transitively lead back to the opponent’s 20 Point Zone (https://i.imgur.com/qFzUcce.png) would not be in violation.