Well if we’re talking about just Vex Edr it would be the fifth microcontroller for Vex Edr which is probably what Taran meant although his list isn’t exactly correct.
It’s not the weight, it’s the volume.
Wireless motors would be awesome in theory, but it’d take at least 3x 18650 cells per V5 Smart Motor to make this feasible in real life. You could make it work off 2x 18650 cells per motor if you’d be willing to dial back the mechanical power to 393 Motor levels, but either way, this would still be a ridiculously massive motor.
After humanity finally cracks the secret behind cheap fusion power, and can afford to waste >99.9999% of it by having wireless power emitters everywhere, then small, lightweight wireless motors would be feasible.
Vex announces cheap fusion powered motors, ships in 8 weeks!!!
Is it waterproof for next years water game?
from my experiences it seems like private teams with only one to two people and a mom or dad have a major advantage over teams with five to six or seven people. something like this could be fixed by adding a private league for people with 1 or 2 people on the team.
I think that’s a bit mean to new users.
I think the issue with those 5-7 person teams might be a lack of organisation. I can tell you that a lot of 5-7 person teams are able to do well, with correct leadership. As well as that, an underlying issue might be the fact that those 2 people teams are able to work from home, whenever they want, rather than under a school’s limits. Working independently allows many more luxuries, including budget, compared to with an established org or school, where money must be split. Creating an entirely new league would essentially split the community in half, and probably result in the same issues, as there are teams within both categories (big teams vs small teams) that are performing at different ends of the spectrum (super good vs super bad).
“Just for vex” shows that you do not value it as I do. There’s only one time in your life that you can do this, and I want to go to worlds and be competitive at least one time
That’s all well and good but there are a number of amazing robotic programs available to get involved with after high school. I’m a senior as well. Yes, vex will no longer be an option if you skip an extra year of high school, but there will be multitudes of other opportunities to improve your mechanical prowess. I don’t want to dig too far into your business but if college is an option, the robotic extracurriculars you can get involved in at a university level are more in depth, and more challenging. Doing vex instead seems like an excuse to repeat something your knowledgeable about instead of learning something new. I’d encourage you to push your limits instead of repeating hs for vex.
Yes, that’s what I was trying to convey. I too love VEX, but there are so many other things as well.
VEX is a great program, but has many flaws. The main problem I have with vex is how exclusive they have made the program. They don’t allow the use of ANY non vex parts (besides like lexan and rubber bands). This means that can basically price their products at any price because no competition exists to drive down prices. For contrast, FTC allows pretty much anyone to become a supplier and distribute goods to teams, which thus drives down prices and makes it much more accessible.
I also think that 3-d printing should be allowed at all levels of VEX. It would really elevate the level of competition and promote students to learn how to CAD, which is a vital skill to have down the road.
No, what we need is more complicated and more expensive systems that no one can easily afford. Why work through design challenges when you can just have more power?
Though I understand your point, allowing for outside suppliers often drives an arms race of sorts in many sports and hobbies making it difficult for new entrants to be competitive … golf clubs… trap guns… tennis racquets … etc etc
I think a lot of everyone’s replies here are based on their own goals or expectations, and I don’t think all of our expectations are the same.
I would agree with @ChrisR246 that the way VEX is done (not allowing external parts) was done with this specific intent. And this is one of the great things about VEX, it puts almost everyone at an equal playing field by requiring all participants to use from the same parts. This eliminates the arms race or only the most well funded teams can compete and do well.
This is one of the things I’m not big fan of FTC (besides that I think the last couple of games are a bit boring… no defenses played… my opinion
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OP, when you posed the question, is there a point or frame of reference you had in mind? Your original post is pretty vague (and that may be good as it allows everyone to chime in with their opinions), although you replied later about teams with $$.
I didn’t really have anything specific in mind. This year was my first year in VEX and it’s changed my life in so many ways, but over the course of the season, i noticed some things that could potentially be changed (like how the program is slowly becoming more and more about entitlement) and I was just curious about what things other people noticed since I knew I couldn’t be the only one. I originally intended it to be more about stuff that we, as members of the vex community, could change rather than things that RECF could change (like rankings, for example), but honestly I don’t really mind the direction it’s gone in. I personally believe that it’s important to talk about things that need fixing, or else things won’t get fixed and so I think that it’s good to talk about any and all changes to vex as well.
While I agree that wireless motors are utterly impractical, not to mention completely pointless, 18650s wouldn’t necessarily to be used.
The V5 battery has 12.8Wh which is about the same as a single 18650.
A motor could use 4 10440 cells for 9.6Wh, about 30 minutes at full power which would only take up a space of about 20x20x44mm or about 0.8"x0.8"x1.7".
What VEX Robotics desperately needs in my opinion is their own version of Gracious Professionalism (and a hard push of it). Being involved in both VEX and FIRST, I have experienced a major difference in how teams behave at competitions. Even here on forums - big difference. There needs to be a way to prevent the bad behavior that is seen in VEX Robotics.
I respectfully disagree. I find that in FIRST individual students are too afraid to speak their mind for fear of how their teammates will interpret it as breaking some fictionalized honor code.
I have found that there is a very fine line between being scared to speak your mind and things such as gracious professionalism, and that line seems to be straddled a lot in Vex. While I do love and appreciate the way that Vex students aren’t as scared to share their opinions, I do think that there is slightly more entitlement and poor sportsmanship than there should be. However, I wouldn’t exactly call it “bad behavior” either. Rather, I have noticed that a lot of the issue is the pressure (especially from parents and mentors) to perform perfectly and do whatever it takes to win, and this pressure is then driven into the students who start to believe that they “have to” and “deserve” to win. A lot of it is also intimidation. I know that I personally, as a student competing in Vex, look up to a lot of teams and a lot of fellow students that do well, and that can be a really intimidating thing. I also know that I am not the only one that feels this way either, and I have started to notice that the more respect you have towards a team, the worse you tend to act, purely because you’re scared that they won’t see you as a valid competitor (or something along these lines, I can’t speak for every student in Vex). So basically, I don’t think that we have “bad behavior” necessarily, but I think that we put ourselves into and get put into difficult situations with lots of pressure, and we’re not sure how to handle that. I mean, we are teenagers after all ![]()
I enjoy the vex community and competition, and I want to get the most out of it before I move on, regardless of what comes later