This is probably a stupid question but, 2 motor 2 wheel or 2 motor 1 wheel?
Well technically
as long as you donāt touch the low goalās 2d plan, you can still expand up 2 inches, which could be used to hook onto one of the bars.
I am just curious, even though Iām not on a team anymore. My idea was that a bot could climb and hug the high goal until the last 10 seconds. If the expansion thing would be an issue, the bot would have a one-shot puncher mechanism on the bottom that makes it jump to reach the bars. Such a design might only require 2 drive motors, or even one, leaving the rest for climbing and endgame expansion. This definitely wouldnāt be a meta, but itās these wacky designs that keep things interesting
Somebody please make this and PM me with how it turns out.
part b of SG5 makes me think that this is a no-go either way, since it has mentions of a āvirtual ceilingā.
Maybe use the vertical expansion to hit the bottom of the high goal with a lot of force to descore discsā¦
No, stop it, please.
Vertical expansion is limited to 24"
Bottom of high goal is 25"
There is no way to descore high goal
This idea is stupid
please stop im tired of seeing this
or instead of saying this in this fashion, say, āit is impossible by the standards set by the rules, blah blah blah 24 inch vertical blah blah blah bottom goal 25 inchesā no idea is stupid. people just need to pay more attention to the rules.
the edit was just fixing a misspell
Might be hard without a turret though, and specifically one that can move up and down as well, so it could have proper velocity and angle. For a lot of flywheels it might not even work. Iāll put it in my Trello though see if in the future I can test it out later on
<G17> Use discs to play the game. Discs may not be used to accomplish actions that would be otherwise illegal if they were attempted by Robot mechanisms (e.g., interfering with an opponentās Autonomous routine, per <SG8>).
Right, but what rule says you cannot de-score the high goal? It would be an SG ruleā¦ no SG rule says de-score is illegal. If unstated in the rules, it is allowed.
Iām just wondering if a flywheel will have enough power for that. Looking at the goals, it might take a lot of force. Plus, the chains? Overall I donāt think descoring could happen this game
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I think itās very possible that you would self descore this game. What I mean is that you might have a disc very close too falling out if your goal is overfilled and then accidentally hit the goal and the disc would fall out.
Summary
Hit your own goal and your own disc falls out
The goals are very flimsy if the goal is full enough I think it could be done and very worth it since every disc descored would be a difference of 6pts.
the motor, quite frankly, should be 2 motors no matter what, or the rev up time between shots will be between 1-2 seconds, which would put you in a not so competitive state in the higher levels, as it would take you 4-6 seconds to unload 3 discs into the high goal. the spinning thing should be ratcheted or chained to the intake, and in certain designs, putting 2 on the intake/roller would be optimal.
Easy solution could be bind the expansion to two buttons that have to both be pressed at the same time in order to avoid accidental firing
What if we put like a red dot or a laser to help aim, would that be legal?
Welcome to the forums (oh, wait, youāre a āregularā but still need this answer).
For any question about the legality of something, we must turn to the game manual (or the Official Q&A). As you read the game manual (https://link.vex.com/docs/2022-2023/vrc-spin-up/GameManual ), keep in mind that the game manual tells you things that you must do, and things that you are prohibited from doing. It canāt tell you everything you might do, so if the game manual does not prohibit an action, then it is generally legal. The game manual does not generally discuss any particular game strategy or mechanisms you might use.
In regards to your question, please review R6ā¦
This is a somewhat more debatable question than it may seem. r6 of course tells you that you must be using only the legal electronic components, which would seem to prohibit the use of something like a laser scope on a robot.
But if we look at point g of <r12>:
g. Decorations which provide visual feedback to Drive Team Members (e.g., decorative lighting) are permitted, provided that they do not violate any other rules and serve no other function (e.g., structural support).
We could come to the conclusion that using a laser pointer as a scope might be legal. Itās not a legal electronic component, but it could qualify as decoration with the sole function of providing visual feedback to drivers.
So by my interpretation of the rules, this is probably legal. But I can also see inspectors giving you a very hard time about this. Could definitely warrant a q&a, and for anyone taking this approach, be prepared to remove the pointer.